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Raspberry Pi – power supply noise on the 5V rails

We are developing audio hardware for the Raspberry Pi. One issue here is the quality of the power supply on the 5V and 3.3V voltage rails. A high quality power supply is a critical aspect in audio circuits. The Raspberry Pi hardware is quite challenging for a power supply, let’s see what happens with different power supplies.

We will look at 3 different 5V power supplies. We use a cheap Nokia AC-10E 5V/1.2A switching mode power supply, an Apple 10W USB power adapter and an inexpensive Manson NSP3630 lab power supply. There are much better lab power supplies available than the Manson, but for our tests this will be good enough. If the Raspberry Pi is just powered on and booted, the 5V rails looks like this:

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Nokia: 4.90-5.54V (0.64V pp)
Noise average: 265mV
Apple: 4.67-4.81V (0.14V pp)
Noise average: 71mV
Manson: 4.94-5.05V (0.11V pp)
Noise average: 62.5mV

You can easily see, that the quality of the Nokia power supply is really bad. The Apple power supplies have a good reputation and looking at the oscilloscope picture you can see, that the signal is a lot cleaner. The Quality of an external lab power supply is still better – but it is also much more expensive and very bulky. Also the voltage is different. But this is not a problem, if the voltage itself is stable.

But what happens, if the Raspberry really runs under load. To stress the system, we transferred files to the Raspberry using SSH. This brings load to the CPU, the network controller and the SD card.

ps-nokia-load ps-apple-load ps-manson-load
Nokia: 4.63-5.42V (0.79V pp)
Noise average: 266mV
Apple: 4.60-4.82V (0.22V pp)
Noise average: 80mV
Manson: 4.94-5.05V (0.11V pp)
Noise average: 66.1mV

The cheap Nokia adapter is worse than before, the voltage drops and peak-to-peak swing further increases. The Apple power supply looks good. But having a closing look at the data, you can see, that the voltage dropped a bit. The Manson lab power supply have no problems at all driving this load.

Conclusion: If you want to produce high quality sound on the Raspberry Pi, you should not use a cheap 5V/1A power supply.

Update 14.10.: We did some more research on noise sources. Check out what we found out about networking.

Shunt regulator page update

shunt-fullWe’ve updated the Shunt regulator page. It now contains a link to the original design from Klang & Ton and the list of all parts needed to build this circuit based on our design. Still looking for a shunt regulator power supply for your audio circuits – check it out!

For a complete power supply you will need an additional rectification and smoothing circuit and a transformer with dual secondaries.

Building a modulated power supply

Do-it-yourself audio enthusiasts love power supplies. Large capacitor banks, complex voltage regulators, shunt regulators – the bigger, the better. You will find also some power supplies of this type in our shop. But do you really need them? Many modern circuits have a relatively good power supply rejection ratio (PSSR). The better the PSSR, the smaller the impact of a noisy power supply to the output. Note that PSSR is not a single value, but depends on the frequency. For audio circuits the most imports frequency range is the audible range from 20Hz to 20kHz. However, even frequencies outside this range can have an impact on the audible performance.

Do you know what is the impact of power supply noise to your circuit? Often you do not know this. While SPICE simulations might help, the reality is often different? Why? Because a real-world PCB is different from an ideal Spice simulation. There are lots of parasitic capacitance and inductance that you do not model in a Spice simulation. Therefore it is always a good idea to test effects of the power supply on the real circuit. But how do you do this? Injecting noise into the power supply can be done with an modulated power supply.

What does a modulated power supply look like? Basically it is a simple summing amplifier. You could even use an audio power amplifier as a modulated power supply. However these devices are not designed to provide DC. Often you will find DC blocking capacitors inside. Even without these, Hi Fi amplifiers are not designed to provide a continuous DC current. This could result in damages of the amplifier. Also Hi Fi amps are not good in amplification of higher frequencies.

Therefore we will build our own symmetrical modulated power supply. We found a nice design at the Defense Electronics website. This design includes even a function generator. In the first step we will not include a function generator, but add the AC overlay from an external input.

Replacements for LM317/LM337

lm317The LM317/LM337 is one of the most used circuits for low power audio applications. The performance is good. For most applications, these integrated circuits work really well. But sometimes you may want something better and more modern. There are two interesting ICs for audio applications:

LT1963/LT3015: These ICs from Linear technologies are relatively expensive in low volumes. It looks like an interesting device for do-it-yourself use, because it is even available in TO220 packages.

TPS49xx/TPS30xx: This pair can be a nice replacement for the 150mA LM317T/LM337T. They are not too expensive, therefore you may even use more multiple devices of you need more than the 150mA. One specific use case is using them as regulators after a switched mode power supply. However there is one disadvantage for DIY use: They come in a 0.65mm pitch MSOP package. But even these devices can be soldered without a reflow oven. Check out Daves EEVBlog for a tutorial how to do this.

Part lists for SinCos and MegaPower DP online

The part lists for our turntable power supply solution were not online yet. But this has been fixed. You can find it here:

I’ve included links to components for Digikey and the german distributor Reichelt Elektronik. However make sure that you check your order again, I can’t guarantee, that the this always links to the correct product.